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Old 26-07-2020, 15:09   #91
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As I said earlier I think the best case scenario is a financial settlement that may take years. Between the loss of TV income and ticket sales you could be looking at 10M+.

After looking at what Primera teams bring in now (Around 50M) the only way to get rid of the debt is to go back to Primera and that can only be done with building a young base and getting promoted next year back to Segunda. The talent is there in Abegondo .
Appreciating your opinion, here is mine:
1. We are never gonna pay back our debts. Even if Pablo Mari's header went in against Mallorca last summer, we would have spent all the Primera TV incomes on Primera players' Primera salaries. You have to accept this mentality in Spanish football, debts are not that super important things. Btw. I dont think ticket sales are relevant under current circumstances.
2. There has been not a single home-grown talent in/from Abegondo/Fabril in the last 20 or more years, who would have made it to Primera or top level Segunda. Edu Ex. was just a young Catalan player, whom we bought at age 19 and sold when he was 23. He has nothing with Depor's youth academy, he grew up in Catalunya. I would really love to see some home-grown Depor players in Sevilla, Rayo, Osasuna, even at traitor Cadiz, but actually we did not produce anyone. The biggest achievement of Depor's youth academy in the last 20 years is the Sturm legend JuanDo and Insua with his few matches at Schalke and Huesca. That tells you everything about the quality of work at Depor's academy.
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Old 26-07-2020, 15:58   #92
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You are probaby right on Point #1 but it at least would have given us an option.

I will agree that for most of the last 20 years there was absolutely nothing , but this next generation has had some talent. Angeliño went to Man City and started for RB Leipzig this season. From a younger age, Hugo Novoa left for RB Leipzig, Fernandez left for Real Madrid and is now at Man U and Bernardez also went to Atletico. None of them have done anything at the professional level but the potential is there. We've seen Rochela, Bicho, and Fornos all cap with the Spain U16s and have underwhelming careers so I understand.

Mujaid is a good Segunda player and we will now get a chance to see JuanRo and Trilli who have capped at the youth level for Spain along with players like Valin, Alberto, and Gandoy who I think also have a Segunda level potential a. My personal favorite "canterano" that I saw with the Galicia U16 team was Martin Ochoa who will be with the Juvenil's this year I believe and of course Dani Estevez who is still many years away from debuting. Is there a world-class player in Abegondo? Probably not, but there is more than enough to have 5-7 players in the first team every year that came from Abegondo which has not been done ever.
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So Fuenlabrada have decided not to play in the playoffs (not that they had actually qualified) and are suggesting to cancel the game against us. Elche will be awarded the 6th spot.

I’m sure we will now be “awarded” the 3 points, therefore, confirming our relegation to Segunda B.

I guess we still fight for a league of 24 but I can’t see it happening now - hope im wrong!!
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Old 26-07-2020, 16:41   #94
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I assume now we are officially relegated.
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Old 26-07-2020, 18:19   #95
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Fuenla are being pictured as the victims, Tebas took all the responsibility on his shoulders (what a brave man), he more or less apologized to Fuenlabrada praised their "sacrifice" of sending a bus full of covid in A Coruna etc...

what an emotional final...

Elche is happy and the play-offs will be played
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Hahaha.... and now an apparent u-turn by Fuenlabrada saying that they do wish to participate in the playoffs. The circus continues.
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Recién lei este tweet de Tebas. Déjame de joder!!!!


Tebas Tweet - directivos, jugadores, técnicos, empleados...del @CFuenlabradaSAD , seguisteis todas las instrucciones que os dió @laliga, el único responsable de viajar a A Coruña, soy yo, quién tomo esa decision. NADIE más.
EL FUTBOL OS DEBE UNA. Ánimo, está oportunidad llegará
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Sorry, I know I shouldn’t write in Spanish on this website - but the anger!!!! How the f#%k can he praise Fuenlabrada and say football owes them one, that they should take heart and that their opportunity will come????

What a joke - it’s no wonder I drink so bloody much!!
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We've seen Rochela, Bicho, and Fornos all cap with the Spain U16s and have underwhelming careers so I understand.
junior national team caps and results do not mean anything. Hun was third at the 2009 U-20 WC. That was our worst generation ever.
something similar happened to the Czechs.
With Angelino you are right, he can be the most successful prospect from Abegondo. For the youngsters: we all know that big teams collect a lot of players for cheap price, if one is a trade success, then good, if not even one, then still it is not a big loss. Also: based on the example of my Hun team, which became from primera champion within years a segunda b team with a relatively good academy, it is gonna be super tough to keep Depor's values in the youth academy, as currently our Portugal cousins can look like to be a better option for quite a few families in the region.
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Hahaha.... and now an apparent u-turn by Fuenlabrada saying that they do wish to participate in the playoffs.

I wouldn't been surprised if Tebas is behind this announcement as well.
Fuenla players, really wish to participate, we're taking their dream away, but oh well, next season football will give them back what it owns to them
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is gonna be super tough to keep Depor's values in the youth academy, as currently our Portugal cousins can look like to be a better option for quite a few families in the region.

This is a huge issue which is why Vidal's plan for the Academy was to make the academy "more gallego" and has the ideas to bring players like Fran to run the academy with coaches like Jaime (already here), Duscher, Valeron, and Pandiani *all rumors*. When we had the advantage of playing Champions League, we could have done the same and gotten players from the region but we did not know how to act like a big club (see the 80M in debt from buying players and letting them go for free). If Depor gives chances to young players in the first team, the players will go to Depor or stay. While Celta celebrate like they are so much farther ahead than us, they were 1 Leganes goal from going down on the last matchday. Hopefully Fran is confirmed and he can bring some ideas that will keep players developing at the pro level and not peak at the U17 level like many of our players have. Ideally we'll find out this week whether that is in the 2nd division or 2B in the next 48 hours.
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Old 27-07-2020, 19:22   #102
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being not a Galician, I would love to see at least a Corunese defender, midfielder and forward in the team. or more
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Old 28-07-2020, 10:51   #103
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I think the club has had the wrong attitude and mentality towards Fabril players for many years now. They are hardly given the opportunity to play and if they do, far too much pressure is put on them. I remember when Mujaid hesitated in the box and allowed the opposition to score, in his first or second game with Anquela and the manager criticised his lapse of concentration during the press conference. And yet we saw Montero and Ruiz commit atrocities without any criticism. Thankfully Mujaid has grown into one of our most consistent performers this season, but its an example of where we have put more trust in outside or loan players.

We know that Alex is a limited player, but he brings respect for the badge and he knows the clubs identity. Having 3-4 home grown players like that in the team could make a world of difference. This season we had far too many players who just didn't care.

I really hope that Gandoy, Vlain and Juan Rodriguez are given proper opportunities in the coming season.

Just to add to some of the Fabril players who could have had success with us, I would add Raul Garcia, Rober Pier and Juan Carlos.

With regards to the Fuenlabrada case, I really do hope its sorted out soon. We need to plan for the coming season. We need to reflect on what needs to be changed and come up with the plan. The longer this case goes on, the longer it detracts from our next plan of action squad wise.
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The transfer market is open on August 4th so I think they'll have to have a decision before then. Based on the Adri Castro signing it seems that they are quietly planning for 2B as all signs are pointing to Deportivo getting the 3 points and Elche going to the playoff, still leaving us relegated. What isn't certain are the players who will leave because of their high salaries.
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Adrian Castro could play for Fabril, he is only 21 years old..
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